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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 31, 2007 12:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: "Estimated" Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Sitting at my desk enjoying the last of lunch and listening to Swing 77 (due to conversations here earlier today). First performance of Estimated (and Terrapin). Got me thinking about Estimated which is one of my favorite Weir/Barlow tunes. Did a little research and one story has it that the song was written about a certain type of Head that would be at every show. Weir says "The basis of it is this guy I see at nearly every backstage door. There's always some guy who's taken a lot of dope and he's really bug- eyed, and he's having some kind of vision. He's got a rave he's got to deliver"
Hmm, could be talking about Dire, no?.
Also enjoy how the religious references are woven in, as Weir/Barlow do in this and other songs (some more blantantly than others)

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2007-01-31 20:04:03

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Jan 31, 2007 10:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Estimated Lyrics

Weir and Barlow like to inject biblical alagories into their songs...Estimated, Brother Esau, Greatest Story...

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jan 31, 2007 12:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

This song is clearly full of allusions and ambiguities, the type of which leads to much scholarly debate. The prophet/profit pun, the burning shore, the clear reference to Some asshole whose outlook on life is Dark because he is so Hollow.

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 31, 2007 12:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Allright, it seems like someone has taken his hands out of his own pants long enough to type out another feeble attempt at a biting comment (I can only pray that you washed up first). I would have to think that the fine and well-heeled readers of this board are only turned away by your repeated attempts to cast aspersions upon my character and you are only succeding in sullying your own. Sir, I beg you cease and desist very soon; afterall, I think there's a Best of Hee-Haw special coming up soon and we all know how long you've been looking forward to that.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jan 31, 2007 12:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Best of Hee Haw? Which one--there were five. Number four is the most hilarious. That Minnie Pearl!

As to my hands, sir, you should know by now that they is always out of my pockets (and not in my pants). True, I cannot unzip my fly by myself, but the doctors tell me that this is for the best.

What does "sullying" mean? I bet you don't know Mr. Super Intelligence. Bet you can't even pronounce it as it has three syllables.

Ha! Take that you hangdog lackey for the imperialist moneymen.

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 31, 2007 12:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Unzip your fly? Wasn't aware that Osh Kosh B'Gosh had flys.

The recently released DVD collection of HeeHaw contains a couple of lost episodes, my favorite being the one where Buck Owens contracts a rather nasty STD and they spend an uproarious 30 minutes forcing the entire cast to take blood tests only to find that it was Roy Clark who gave it to him!!
Now that's quality family fun.

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2007-01-31 20:50:00

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jan 31, 2007 1:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

I got that one for Xmas--the dvd, that is, not the disease. That I got--oh, never mind.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 31, 2007 12:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

"Hmm, could be talking about Dire, no?."

Hey!! What's that supposed to mean "friend" (and i use that term loosely)

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 31, 2007 12:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Oh, nothing really. But I have heard stories about a certain limping lupus getting "bug eyed" and ranting occasionally. I guess it could be a case of mistaken identity.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 31, 2007 12:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

i was only offended by the bug-eyed part - they are usually more half shut by ranting time ;)

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Poster: cush11 Date: Jan 31, 2007 1:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Only get bug-eyed for Bossie?

Hi guys...

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Poster: rastamon Date: Jan 31, 2007 2:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

by most accounts, bossie was satisfied last night

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Poster: cush11 Date: Jan 31, 2007 1:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Way to funny!!! Just got it open, thanks rasta... :)

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 31, 2007 2:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Hey, Cush, gonna be able to spend some time with us this weekend?

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Poster: cush11 Date: Jan 31, 2007 2:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Going to try, saturday is most likely... What are the start times again?

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 31, 2007 6:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

9 PM EST Friday and Saturday for Augusta and St. Louis respectively

We'll probably do the Fillmore West show sometime Sunday in the AM or Early PM Sunday

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Poster: cush11 Date: Jan 31, 2007 6:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Thanks SDH, look for me saturday. Gotta work fri and sun... Though I might be able to get in on an early sunday show!

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 31, 2007 6:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

What time do you work Friday?

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Poster: cush11 Date: Jan 31, 2007 6:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Noon > 9pm, get home around 9:30 need to spend a little time with the girls. Could make 2nd set possibly... Now there's a thought! I knew I'd have one today!!!

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 31, 2007 7:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Damn! The Augusta show is rather short, short of 2.5 hours. Well, with a 15-20 minute break between sets, you might be able to get the Dew. Well, family first, as always. Hope you'll be able to squeeze in little, but, like you say, there's always Saturday night and Sunday. If we nail down a firm start time for the early Sunday listen, I'll be sure to throw that up here.

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Poster: cush11 Date: Jan 31, 2007 7:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

I'll check it out and let you know...

Be back in a bit...

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Poster: Edsel Date: Jan 31, 2007 12:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Reminds me of a lot of someones.

**wink wink**
**grok grok**
**wink wink**

hehehehe

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 31, 2007 12:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Cliff believes the song to be somewhat contemptuous towards some percentage of heads who took the Deads scene too seriously.

Nice edgy version here, appropriate...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd77-10-29.sbd.kempa.280.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 31, 2007 12:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Agree with you here. How could they (the band) not look out on some of the folks who were so wrapped up in the band that they literally did nothing else but go to shows, talk about shows, plan on going to shows, trade tapes of shows, do massive amounts of drugs and pontificate about how the Dead were an allegory to the deeper meaning of life and think "Some of these folks should really look into getting a life".

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Poster: high flow Date: Jan 31, 2007 1:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Estimated' Meaning: Remind You Of Anyone?

Just like Trekkies. Shatner and others have intimated they felt the same way about a particular segment of their audience as well.

A little too into it.

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